Posts by Sea Breeze

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

Sea Breeze

so it is clearly impossible to present any reasons for the abandonment or 1914 CE which marked the end of the Gentile Times and the birth of God's Kingdom.

The Gentile Times have not ended. They will end when Jesus comes back. (He 'aint back yet ..."every eye will see him")

This is the very core of WT error. But, they can never say that the Gentile Times are still going on because this is the fundamental rationale for rejecting the New Covenant "for forgiveness of sins" (Mt. 26: 27-28)

They will ride 1914 to their end.

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

Sea Breeze

Distant starlight could be instantaneously displayed in real time on our retina. Wow! Apparently this has been known for over 117 years.

I believe that Physicists will one day have a "theory of everything" seamlessly integrating relativity, Newtonian laws and quantum mechanics. When they do, we will probably find out how particles can be in two places same time and how light travels as a wave until observed, and then collapses into a particle so it can be detected on our retina.

But, the bottom line is that we cannot know through experiment how long light from the stars has been traveling to reach us.

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The One Way Speed of Light Could Be Instantaneous

by Sea Breeze in

physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction.

assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact.

this really challenges what we think we know.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptn6ewhb27k&ab_channel=veritasium .

Sea Breeze

Physics students learn the speed of light, c, is the same for all inertial observers but no one has ever actually measured it in one direction. Assuming that light travels the same speed in all directions is a convention, rather than an experimentally verified fact. This really challenges what we think we know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTn6Ewhb27k&ab_channel=Veritasium

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Sea Breeze

But take a stand, hold them to account for a lie, or for their objectionable behavior and it's "bye bye"

Yes, this would clearly show a lack of remorse.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

Sea Breeze

FFGhost,

From what I understand, in the ancient Maya language every letter is pronounced. When you pronounce the Greek alphabet letters in order, it tells the story I posted above in the Mayan language. This would indicate that the Greek alphabet descended from Cara-Maya vocables, and not the other way around as standard history might suggest.

I don't believe Ripley's has ever been found to have falsified any of its claims.

Here's another reference. Pages 55 - 58.

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A single Bible verse that explains everything—hope even to the disfellowshipped

by Abraham1 in

"through love and faithfulness sin is atoned for;.

through the fear of the lord evil is avoided.” (proverb 16:6, niv).

sin can be cancelled [yə·ḵup·par] by acts of goodness such as kindness [bə·ḥe·seḏ] and faithfulness, and sin can be avoided in loving remembrance [ū·ḇə·yir·’aṯ] of god.

Sea Breeze

"Through love and faithfulness sin is atoned for;
through the fear of the LORD evil is avoided.” (Proverb 16:6, NIV)

Abraham1,

You are making the same mistake the WT does. You are taking an OT scripture and applying it to a NT age, and thus making Christ sacrifice for us personally unnecessary.

When that scripture was written, Israelites already had a national contract with God mediated by Moses for the forgiveness of sins. The contract guaranteed the survival of the nation of Israel (its existence today is a glaring testimony to that fact); Within that legal umbrella an individual could be saved if they put faith in the vicarious sacrificial system to do what it claimed to do.

Even so, it was still the act of faith that saved a person and not the ritual itself. If a person gamed the system and used it as a "get out of jail free card", it wouldn't work. The rich man still found himself in hell in Jesus' account of him and the beggar Lazarus.

For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us - 1 Cor. 5: 7

In the Church Age, Jesus is the Passover lamb that was sacrificed in our place for our sin (not Adam's or anyone elses).

Just like in the previous contract, putting faith in anything else, even your own good deeds will be rejected. There is no fire insurance policy a person can buy under the NT contract. Everything has already been paid. Take it or leave it.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

Sea Breeze

On Australia’s Gold Coast in south-east Queensland there is a Ripley’s Believe-It-or-Not Odditorium. In that museum there is one display panel, partially shown in the photograph below. It is the Greek alphabet and it happens to be the same as a known epic poem in the Mayan language:

Also, Ancient Mayan and Chinese calendar systems share so many similarities, it is unlikely they developed independently, according to the late David H. Kelley, whose paper on the subject was published posthumously in August.

The same days in the Mayan and Chinese calendars are associated with the deer, the dog, and the monkey. Other days also closely match, though the correspondence is not exact.

For example, one day is associated with the jaguar in the Mayan calendar, but with the tiger in the Chinese. Another is associated with the crocodile in the Mayan, but the dragon in the Chinese.

Its almost like a lot of the worlds cultures share a common beginning.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

Sea Breeze

Is that water going anywhere? Has it gone anywhere? No evidence whatsoever that has happened.

The current research indicates that water is cycling, not only from the atmosphere but also from beneath the surface oceans as well.

Discover Magazine:

All that water below Earth’s surface isn’t just sitting still: It’s cycling, pulled along as tectonic plates move. A big announcement came in 2018 from Doug Wiens and his colleagues at Washington University in St. Louis who’d been monitoring the Mariana Trench — a trough that includes the oceans’ lowest point, about 36,000 feet deep. There, the Pacific plate plunges far beneath the neighboring Philippine Sea plate through a process called subduction, carrying vast quantities of absorbed water with it to the upper mantle.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

Sea Breeze

Simon,

Were you aware that scientists have discovered a vast reservoir of water, enough to fill the Earth’s oceans three times over is trapped beneath the surface of the earth?

"If just 1% of the weight of mantle rock located in the transition zone was water it would be equivalent to nearly three times the amount of water in our oceans, Jacobsen said".

“It’s good evidence the Earth’s water came from within,” says Steven Jacobsen of Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois.

Seems to fit the biblical explanation to me.

Most secular scientists claim that Mars was once nearly totally covered in water.

Yet, despite much evidence to the contrary, these same scientists claim it is impossible for the earth to have one time been covered in water. That claim seems pretty biased to me.

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Response to "The Flood is Real, Because ..."

by Simon in

i remember one of the flowchart responses to people questioning the biblical flood was something along the lines that "every culture has a flood story".. of course, nearly everywhere has flooded at one time or another and we know there are minor floods and then there are the 1-in-1000 year kind of weather event, that tend to get a mention (anyone from the uk will still talk about the summer of '76, and that's probably nothing in comparison to a decent flood).. but the inference is that the flood must be real, because every culture has a flood story.. the best response is "now do dragons".. because apparently, nearly every culture also has a dragon legend.. does it mean dragons exist?

some desperate jw may show their ignorance by suggesting that man lived at the same time as dinosaurs and they are what the stories were based on.

fun fact: stegosaurus was a fossil when t-rex was alive for longer than it's been since t-rex has been a fossil to us - we're talking old, and no overlap (ignore the map in the cover of the old green bible).. do jws still even bother trying to defend the cray-cray aesop-fable kind of ot beliefs?.

Sea Breeze

According to data from the U.S. Geological Survey, the amount of water in the earth's atmosphere could not possibly cover the earth.

Not necessary. The "fountains of the deep" were broken. In other words, I believe there were vast oceans under the ground that burst open and flooded the planet.